Posts in March 1998

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From: SKYLeung
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:15:34 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Re: The Ethnic Question

Brother DJ,

Again, I’d like to take an existing discussion (the ethnic/culture question)
and explore another aspect: leaving our cultures. I know you’ve left a
culture or two over the past year.

Lately, I’ve been challenged by Gn 12.1 on several occasions. The NASB reads:
Now the LORD said to Abram, “Go forth from your country, and from your
relatives, and from your father’s house, to the land which I will show you;

1) Last week, a Chinese-speaking, Korean missionary to Singapore spoke at
our Church as a Mark’s Upper Room Movement (MURM) representative. He used Gn
12 as a launching point for one talk on the need sometimes for us to depart
from our cultural strongholds/ruts in order to experience God’s blessings.
While I wouldn’t suggest that this verse should be taken from its context and
appropriated for/applied to every person’s case, and while I still have some
reservations about the MURM, the message came through loud and clear. God may
be waiting for me to depart from my comfort zone lined with the
furnishings/trappings of “my” culture so that He can show me more of what He
has in store. [I note with interest that the speaker also suggested that
Chinese pastors and leaders need to give up the notion that carrying the cross
daily equates to some ascetic test of character/devotion. Instead, he offered
that cross-carrying should be considered a process by which the blessing of
doing what it takes to bring glory to God is realized.]

2) Over the weekend, I met with an ABC (actually Taiwanese) couple that
recently returned from several years of missions work in China. I was amazed
to learn that they possessed minimal fluency in Mandarin (the wife had none)
before they went overseas. Yet, they shared about how God repeatedly helped
them overcome obstacles and even used them instrumentally. Moreover, they
found that as newly weds their “adjustment” was aided by having to adjust to
their new “land” and spend large amounts of time co-laboring together.

3) Driving to work this morning, I happened to tune into Jack Hayford on the
radio, and again Gen 12.1 was being referenced. Hayford went over the idea of
us being “called out ones.” He also explained how Ur was one of the more
developed civilizations and cultures of the region when Abram was called to
leave it. Isn’t that why leaving is sometimes so difficult? The possibility
of leaving what we esteem to be the best developed culture or “civilization”
is sometimes more daunting than simply dealing with change itself.
Subconsciously we are leaving what we perceive to be the hub of “the most
advanced knowledge and understaning.”

What might constitute leaving my country, my relatives, or my father’s
household? I suppose that in some cases this might mean embracing a multi-
ethnic approach. In other cases, it might mean adopting a seeker-sensitive
format, targeting another demographic group, ministering to another age group,
or even standing fast to support generation next in an immigrant church that
is becoming even more focused on “immigrants.” The reasons might vary as
well. We may be breaking out of a rut, a stronghold, or a culture “hostile”
to Kingdom values/precepts. More positively, we may be positioning ourselves
to be used by God in critical ways, meeting a real need and advancing the
Kingdom, or simply trying to better reflect what Kingdom will be like.

Your thoughts? When did you hear the call to leave? Was leaving easy? Is it
for everyone?

Listening,
Stephen

P.S. As I expected, our elders went ahead and decided to bring aboard the
seminarian and former house pastor from China. If and when he becomes the
senior pastor, we may represent a very rare situation – a senior pastor from
China in a church ministering to ABCs (TNG) and OBCs (including Taiwanese and
Cantonese) as well as MCs.

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From: “DJ Chuang”
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:01:28 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: It’s time to pray and fast for the USA

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From: metawake@juno.com
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 09:01:05

Dear friends in prayer:

Following is an e-mail version of the PrayUSA! ’98 40-day prayer
calendar from Sunday, March 1 to Thursday, April 9. Please use in your
circles and distribute freely among your networks. For more information
about PrayUSA! ’98, please contact us and we will mail you a brochure.
Thank you for taking the time to “pray America back to God.”

Until all Americans hear and obey,

Martin Mei-ta Chow
Pray USA! ’98 National Asian Coordinator
President, Metawake Revival and Evangelism, Inc.

Contact Address: Metawake Revival and Evangelism
P.O. Box 2214
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91729-2214
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Tel. 909-944-4963
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PrayUSA! ’98 General Theme: “The Church and Pastors”

WEEK 1: March 1-7

RECOGNIZING OUR CONDITION

Theme: The Church Repents Revelation 2:4-5

SUNDAY March 1 Matthew 22:37-39
HONOR THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT

* God of our salvation, we have forsaken love for one another and
for Christ. May we, with repentant hearts, return to You, and live holy
lives which will honor You in this dark world, which was our desire when
we first gave our lives to You!

MONDAY March 2 John 13:35
MAY WE BE KNOWN AS YOUR DISCIPLES

* Righteous Father, forgive us for being less than shining
examples to others who need to know Your grace. We pray that all people
in this nation and beyond may see and know without a doubt that we are
Your disciples, because we love one another deeply and completely.

TUESDAY March 3 James 1:22
MAY WE BE DOERS OF THE WORD!

* Prince of life, forgive us for ignoring Your Word. Give us the
strength and conviction to hear Your Word and then to do what it says!
May Your Word be boldly proclaimed by Your pastors and Your people!

WEDNESDAY March 4 2 Corinthians 1:12
RIGHT RELATIONSHIPS IN AND TO THE WORLD

* Light of the World, we have not always been good examples of
who You are. Forgive us and help us to conduct ourselves in the world,
and especially in our relationships with others, in the holiness and
sincerity that can only come from You.

THURSDAY March 5 Galatians 5:13
MAY WE HAVE THE HEART OF A SERVANT

* God-Who-Sees into our hearts, we know that You have called us
to be free. Forgive us for indulging in our sinful natures, and help us
to love and serve one another.

FRIDAY March 6 Hebrews 12:14
BE HOLY AS HE IS HOLY

* Rock of our salvation, forgive us for living less than holy
lives. Help us to make every effort to live in peace with all men and
to be holy; for without our example of holiness, our efforts to reach
our nation and the world with Your message will be in vain.

SATURDAY March 7
PRAYERWALK AROUND YOUR CHURCH

Focus your praying on your own life and the lives of those in
your community. Ask God to renew your spiritual passion and to change
the lives of those in your community. Pray for a fresh outpouring of
God’s Spirit upon your church.

TO BE CONTINUED…………

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From: Gdaht
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:39:21 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: It’s time to pray and fast for the USA


http://members.aol.com/IambicG/ialunelo.html

1.
but it was eve, she made me do it
why’d you give her to me if
she would cause a man to stumble
why’d you give her to be with

Chorus:

sin no more, why not be honest?
sin no more, the only way
go in peace like God would want us
sin no more, do good today

2.
can’t change stripes upon a zebra
black and white but why not beige?
sodom drove the zebras crazy
somethin’ like the present age

3.
lonely onan all alone
took his problems into hand
who but God would ever know
why his seed grew in the land

4.
joseph, joseph do you love me
don’t be cool, i am not
feel the heat a little closer
warm up now to what i got

5.
hey delilah, i adore thee
feed me while ya cut ma hair
you can tell me all your secrets
just don’t try my soul to bare

6.
oh, bathsheba, are you dressing
be for me all wet and wed
don’t mind me, i am behaving
like your husband must be dead

7.
tamar did what daddy told
dressed in festal virgin gowns
what her brother did is cold
ripped her up and tore her down

8.
smoothe salome belly dancer
herod sees you turn about
he had questions, you th’ answer
on a platter carried out

9.
m’am we caught you masquerading
this the Teacher’d like to know
you were sinning, we were waiting
stones in hand we’d like to throw
(oh–the man?–we let him go)

10.
God we hear is wholly other
man we know is holy not
one in corinth slept with mother
satan stood behind the plot

11.
and babylon the pride of nations
brother john could see so well
lies upon the world’s foundations
barbarism lust and hell

12.
straight and narrow, wings of eagles
or the broadway ball and chained
slaves of either good or evil
love’s reward is lost or gained
(all you need is love they say)

©1998 go

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From: Grace May
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:50:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: re: CAC_Mail, The Ethnic Question

Joe,
Thx for refocusing our attention and continuing the conversation
on culture and our Christian identity.

I would agree with you that the gospel embodies transcultural
values and priorities. Yet at the same time, the God revealed in
Scripture always chooses to communicate the good news in human terms,
which is not to say that God doesn’t often end up amazing the beholder
(whether Peter after the miraculous catch of fish or Mary at the Garden
after the Resurrection), but God seems deliberately and intentionally to
speak in terms that we can understand (using fish or a familiar voice).
We see this clearest in the life and ministry of Jesus Christ, God
incarnate in a specific time, place and culture.

Thus while I reject the missiological proposition that there are no
metanarratives, only individual stories about Christianity (popular among
certain ethnologists), I do value the particular perspectives of
Christianity that we are increasingly receiving from around the world.
The global composite asks critical and challenging questions of all of us
whatever our vantage points. Theologies, for example, of the two-third’s
world are revealing some of our Western biases that up until recently we
presumed were part and parcel of THE Gospel — essential, immutable and
transcultural.

Like our brother Stephen insists, there are of course sins and distortions
of the truth present in every culture that need to be repented of and
corrected. But this side of heaven, I believe, we can only approximate
what will soon be perfectly revealed. As to a “Kingdom culture,” I’d
prefer to reserve that description for our final destination or speak
more concretely to the values and priorities that we belive give us a
foretaste of heaven. But wouldn’t you agree that as soon as we go
the next step of providing specific instances of where we find “heaven on
earth,” powerful as they may be, we need to be careful about generalizing
those expressions to all of humanity? And yet as our other brother so
eloquently demonstrated using the Asian-American culture as an example, we
must be willing to examine in detail the particular strengths and
weaknesses inherent in our culture. Only then can we make honest
confession and honor God with our unique gifts.

Humbly during this Lent season,
Grace

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From: “DJ Chuang”
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:52:55 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: Re: CAC_mail: Culture and Ethnic Ministries

Pastor Joseph:
Appreciate the thoughts you’re grappling with as we seek to redeem both
individuals and institutions (culture) as the fullness of our calling
as believers to manifest God’s kingdom throughout our lives, our
values, beliefs, and behavior, as well as methods and concepts.

I’ll summarize my reflections this way:

1. I find it confusing to be redefining terms such as “reality”, or
“lies”, or “truth”, or “darkness” as we grapple with the abstract &
complex ideas. It may be more helpful to coin new words or use more
descriptive terms to describe the ideas you’re proposing, because words
mean things (and those words already have lexical meaning & common
usage which facilitate communication– so to redefine them seems to
increase complexity in discussion).

2. given that the world is now fallen, and we lived under a curse,
along with creation, how much of kingdom culture is possible to be
expressed in even our values & methods? This is akin to the question,
how long can we go without sinning? (being the Romans 7 realist that I
am honest with, I believe I sin many times every day, on a good day
maybe sinless for an hour). Similarly, should we know with certainty
the design of God for an institution, say the church or marriage, how
much of that can we implement successfully?

3. I found it helpful to use the idea of C.S. Lewis (?) that there is
no absolute evil, but only relative evil, which is defined to be the
absence of good. Such that, various forms of sinfulness and secularism
is only varying degrees of absence of good or holiness. This suggests
that there is not black & white, good vs. evil categories, but rather
a whole continuum of holiness vs. sinfulness.

DJ

On 1 Mar 98 at 23:47, JWongCDI wrote:

> Please allow me to elaborate. What is God’s Truth? Without
> evaluating the different ideas, let me say that God’s Truth is REALITY
> as God would describe it. And the key ingredients to find in God’s
> description are His design and His purpose for creating anything. (I
> know, you’ll need to think about this.)
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From: TSTseng
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:26:21 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: MSNBC Gaffe & Michelle Kwan

Dear CACers:

Some news about the MSNBC gaffe re: Michelle Kwan. MSNBC did apologize!

Tim Tseng

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This is a copy of OCA’s response to the MSNBC Headline. OCA National
would like to thank everyone who notified OCA regarding this incident.
Please keep up the great work. We would like to encourage everyone
to continue to send your email notices to them. Thank you once again!
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February 28, 1998

Mr. Mark Harrington
President of MSNBC
One MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus, NJ 07094

Dear Mr. Harrington:

The Organization of Chinese Americans (OCA), a national Asian
Pacific American civil rights organization, is very disturbed
to have learned about your recent website news caption,
“AMERICAN BEATS OUT KWAN FOR WOMEN’S FIGURE SKATING
TITLE.” A copy of the headline is attached.

It is a well-known fact that Michelle Kwan, a Silver Medalist
in the 1998 Olympic Games, is a U.S. citizen and a native American.
Her parents were immigrants from Hong Kong and she herself was
born and raised in Torrance, California. Except for her skin
color, she is no different from any other 17 year-old American
teenager. Thus, we consider it a disgrace and indeed an
insult that MSNBC would post a web notice headlined “AMERICAN BEATS
OUT KWAN FOR WOMEN’S FIGURE SKATING TITLE”, implying that Michelle
is not an American. Your insensitivity is troubling, especially
with regard to such a high-visibility figure-skating champion,
who has been called an American Superstar.

We ask that you issue an erratum to your caption and to any such
references in your ensuing articles. Failing to do so would,
in our view, perpetuate the misconception in the U.S. that Asian
Americans are “foreign,” notwithstanding the fact that they may
have lived in this country for generations. MSNBC should
be aware that skin color is not and should not be a determining factor
in being considered an American!

We ask that MSNBC broaden its coverage of Asian Pacific Americans
by providing accurate portrayals of our community. May is Asian
Pacific American heritage month and would be an opportune time
to showcase the Asian Pacific American community. OCA would be
more than pleased to be a resource.

We await your prompt response.

Sincerely,

Michael C. Lin, Ph.D.
National President

cc: Ed Macedo, MSNBC sports editor
Merrill Brown, MSNBC executive editor
Sen. Daniel Akaka
Sen. Daniel Inouye
Rep. Robert Matsui
Rep. Patsy Mink
Rep. Robert Underwood
Rep. Eni Faleomavaega

===================================================================

Reporting on the Olympic figure skating competition, MSNBC
(Microsoft’s internet news venture) used the following headline after Tara
Lipinski took the gold:

“American beats out Kwan”

Kwan, which all of you and most of the world should know, is an American
skater. As such, this headline could be interpretted in a variety of
ways: racist, stupid, ignorant, offensive, etc.

The Asian American Journalists Association is writing a formal statement
in regards to MSNBC’s use of the headline. In phone conversations, MSNBC
and it’s online newsroom have responded by saying that the reporter who
wrote the article did not have it approved by the editor before posting it
to the internet. They have also indicated there was no malicious (AKA:
racist) intent.

Here would be my suggested alternatives for headlines:
“Lipinski beats out Kwan”
“Polack beats out Chink”
“Whitey beats out Slant”
“U.S. beats out Red China”
“The Great White Race beats out The Inscrupulous Yellow Peril”
(Please take those last 4 as jokes)

Whether or not there were racial undertones to the headline (i.e.
White=American and Asian=foreigner), this was irresponsible journalism and
should not be tolerated.

If you would like to respond to MSNBC, you may e-mail them at the
following address:

sports@msnbc.com

Thanks,

Brandon Sugiyama
Executive Leadership Program Coordinator
Asian American Journalists Association
brandons@aaja.org

================================================================

H Zia <hzia1@usa.net

On February 20, MSNBC (the Microsoft and NBC internet news venture) used
the following headline after Tara Lipinski took the gold for the Olympic
figure skating competition:

"American beats out Kwan"

Michelle Kwan, of course, was the American favored to win the top honors.
She was featured on the cover of Newsweek as an American gold medal
contender. Anyone who tuned in to the Olympics coverage for 10 seconds knew
that. Except for the MSNBC news desk.

The Asian American Journalists Association is writing a formal statement
about MSNBC's use of the headline. In phone conversations, MSNBC
and its online newsroom have responded by saying that the reporter who
wrote the article did not have it approved by the editor before posting
it to the internet. They are treating it as an unfortunate mistake by an
overworked staff. They have also indicated there was no malicious (AKA:
racist) intent.

Ironically, this headline appeared the day after the 56th anniversary of
the incarceration of 120,000 Japanese Americans in US concentration camps
because they were perceived of as foreign enemy aliens. And the "Asian
Americans as foreign spy" theme has dominated the coverage of the campaign
finance issue. While this was an unfortunate slip, it does have harmful
consequences on real American people.

There still remains the question of what can be done to prevent such
knee-jerk racist stereotypes from being aired instantaneously to millions
without any kind of review or check.

Whether or not there were racial undertones to the headline (i.e.
White=American and Asian=foreigner), this was irresponsible journalism and
should not be tolerated.

If you would like to respond to MSNBC, you may e-mail them at the following
address:

sports@msnbc.com

Ed Macedo is MSNBC's sports editor– ed.machado@msnbc.com
Ed's direct number is 425-703-5935.

Merrill Brown is the MSNBC executive editor, Merrill.Brown@msnbc.com
Merrill's is direct number 425-703-2548.

Both can be reached at MSNBC, Bldg. 25N 2060, One Microsoft Way, Seattle,
WA 98052.

By the way, the onscreen ad that appeared with this headline was
Ameritrade. The advertisers would surely find this offensive as well.

Organization of Chinese Americans
1001 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Suite #707
Washington, D.C. 20036

Tel:(202)223-5500
Fax:(202)296-0540
Voice Mail:(202)223-5523

E-Mail: oca@ari.net
World Wide Web: http://www2.ari.net/oca
===========================

You can read MSNBC's apology at

http://www.msnbc.com/news/147046.asp

They have removed the original headline from their News Alert.

Richard Lee, Ph.D.

_____________________________________________________________

Richard M. Lee, Ph.D.
Counseling Psychology Program
Dep't of Educational Psychology 512.471.4409 (office)
SZB 504 Sanchez Building 512.475.7641 (fascimile)
The University of Texas at Austin rich.lee@mail.utexas.edu
Austin, TX 78712-1296
_____________________________________________________________

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From: "DJ Chuang"
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:13:17 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: Seeking Assistant Pastor

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 03:59:07 -0800
From: Ben Hui
To: cac@bccn.org
Subject: Seeking Assistant Pastor

My church in Orange County, CA, is currently seeking an Assistant
Pastor (job ad below).

We currently are seeking a pastor who has a heart to work with a group
of youths and young adults who are mostly American-born Chinese. We
currently have our own English service and need a pastor to shepherd
us. We have been praying for months and have put our efforts in seeking
a pastor. Although we are a part of a Chinese-speaking church, we are
a distinctly separate congregation that has a committed group of
leaders.

If you can be of any assistance, we would be most appreciative.

The pastor ad with details are below. Please feel free to circulate
this email to anyone who might be interested.

If you have any questions, please email me at: benhui@earthlink.net

In Christ,
Lisa Che Hui

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ASSISTANT PASTOR WANTED

Chinese Church in Orange County, California, seeking Assistant Pastor
(full or part-time) to oversee its English-speaking congregation and
conduct community outreach. The congregation, composed of youths and
young adults, is a small, committed group with a potential for growth.
In addition to meeting the following educational requirement and
experiences, the successful candidate will:

1) Possess sound biblical teaching – believing that the Bible is fully
inspired by God
2) Hold evangelical Christian views to fit in a Bible church
3) Have a gift of leadership – will train and build leaders in the body
of Christ
4) Have a desire to work with Asian Americans, American-born Chinese,
and Generation Xers

Education: M.A. Biblical Study, Masters in Divinity preferred.
Experience: Two years of pastoral work preferred

Please send resume to Pastor Carl Che at Orange County Chinese Christian
Church, 4421 Cerritos Avenue, Cypress, CA 90630 or call (714) 826-5667.

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From: mlcheng@fas.harvard.edu (Cheng Man-lung)
Subject: Need your support in trial about Nanjing Massacre. (fwd)

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>Subject: need your support in trial about Nanjing Massacre.
>
>A retired Japanese soldier cannot deny the truth any more, he published a
>book about the Nanking Massacre. However, he is currently persecuted by
>the former Japanese Imperial Army officers. Facing the pressure of a
>3-year lawsuit, he needs your support by fax. Please dial:
>011-81-6364-4196.
>
>On March 12, 1998, the Japanese Supreme Court will try to bury part of the
>crimes the Japanese Imperial Army committed during World War II. This, in
>turn, would rewrite history with the Nanjing Massacre buried forever in
>all history books. We need your help to preserve the history, as it truly
>took place, by showing your support to a retired Japanese soldier who has
>spoken out the truth to the public. However, his actions were criticized
>and denied by the formal military officers and other conservatives.
>
>In 1987, Mr. Shiro Azuma, a retired Japanese soldier, published “My
>Nanking Platoon” which is a diary describing his days in Nanjing in the
>year of 1937 when the Japanese Imperial Army invaded Nanjing. The diary
>described criminal acts committed by the Japanese Imperial Army which
>included savage killings, malicious rapes and countless immoral acts. One
>of which he described was how one of the soldiers killed a Chinese
>civilian. This soldier, Mituharu Hashimoto, put a Chinese civilian into a
>mailbag, used then by the post office, and burned the bag to entertain his
>fellow comrades. Afterwards, he placed a hand grenade into the bag and
>threw the bag into the river in an effort of creating a “stimulating
>high”. This diary however fell into the hands of Hashimoto and his former
>officer, Hideo Mori. They claimed this literature as a collection of
>lies, and Azuma was subsequently taken into the Tokyo Lower Court.
>Because of the support that Mori and Hashimoto obtained from the Japanese
>Veterans Association and the conservative trends of the Japanese Justice
>System, the Tokyo Lower Court ruled against Azuma. Soon after, an appeal
>was filed with the Supreme Court. This has been going on for over three
>years due to the fact that Azuma has to travel 500 miles each way from the
>country side of Kyoto all the way to Tokyo for all court dates and
>meetings with his lawyers. This became not only a financial, but also a
>psychological burden for Azuma.
>
>This coming March 12,1998 will be his appearance in the Supreme Court.
>Mr. Azuma wrote in his recent letter: “This is one of the most crucial
>moment. March 12, 1998. Exactly at 2 PM, I will testify in the Supreme
>Court, and I will tell the truth of the Nanjing Massacre. The seats for
>the public hearing will, without doubt, be filled with the Kaikosha
>Society, the group of the old Japanese Imperial army officers. This also
>means a confrontation between me and the company commander, who ordered
>the “Charge” and was scared enough to run for their lives to the back
>instead of front. These militarist officers, who all received decoration
>from the Emperor, a proof of the evidence that they killed innocent
>Chinese People, are the true accuser and manipulator, not the little
>soldiers of little significance… I am 86 year old now, but I will fight
>to death like a young man, but this time is not for the Emperor but for
>the justice and the history.”
>
>Given the details described above, please show your support by faxing your
>voices directly to Mr. Niwa Masao, Mr. Azuma’s attorney, in Japan. To fax
>from the U.S. please dial: 011-81-6364-4196
>
>The letter can be of your style, and the content is to support Mr. Azuma
>and protest the revisionists and the biased justice system in Japan. The
>sample letter can be stated as follows:
>
>We, __________, strongly support Mr. Shiro Azuma, for his courage and
>honesty in confessing the crimes committed by the Japanese Imperial Army.
>At the same time we also condemn the revisionists, and the biased justice
>system of Japan, which lacks of conscientious morals when dealing with the
>war crimes.
>
>*****************************************************
>Alliance In Memory Of Victims Of Nanjing Massacre
>Email: info@nanjing1937.org
>Website: http://www.nanjing1937.org
>*****************************************************

With warm regard.

Cheng Man-lung (Mr.) Tel: (617) 495-3369
Research Assistant Fax: (617) 495-7798
Harvard-Yenching Institute mlcheng@fas.harvard.edu

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From: JWongCDI
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:03:41 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: MSNBC Gaffe & Michelle Kwan

Thanks for the information.

Yet, I’m glad I was not party to OCA’s memo to MSNBC.

It seems there is always the danger of doing a good thing the wrong way.

Joe Wong

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From: Tom Steers
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:17:29 -0800
Subject: [none]

March 6, 1998

Dear CACers,

Do you know a college student or recent graduate who is ready to serve the
Lord
as a witness overseas? The Lord has opened a special opportunity for them.

James Kang, Asian American Ministries Navstaff in Chicago, and myself are
going to The Philippines this summer, July 17 to August 10. We are taking
a group of college students and recent graduates with us.

The Filipino Navigators have asked us to bring some summer missionaries
with us. They want our team to help them start up the collegiate school
year. This means our team will be split up into smaller teams on the
various campuses where the Filipino Navs have university ministries. Our
ministry teams will help the Filipino Navs make contacts with
students who would like to investigate who Jesus is. Also, this will be a
maximize “hands on” experience in the ministry activities and in the
culture. We will be living with Filipino staff members or Filipino
ministry leaders. One big advantage: I was a short term Nav missionary to
The Philippines for two-and-a-half years. James and I also spent six weeks
ministering in The Philippines in the summer of 1987 with The Navs.

Please take action on this possibility immediately. We need to make a
down payment for the airline reservations by April 7. We need to have the
applications back to us with a $150 application fee by April 6.

Applicants should be followers of Jesus who have been doing some ministry
to others, like witnessing, leading Bible studies, meeting one-on-one, etc.
This will be a highly relational time as a missions team. James and I are
very relational, and we look forward to developing some new friendships.
Also, we are eager to help the summer missionaries have a lifetime
heart-commitment for the lost and for the world.

If you, or one of your contacts, have a question, please call me. Also,
my e-mail address is destitny@hooked.net.

With you in His love and mission,

Tom Steers
Director of Asian American Ministries
The Navigators
Box 6925 San Pedro CA 90734 (310) 831-9721

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From: JWongCDI
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:53:53 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: Culture: The problem for Truth

Beloved;

Bear with me. If you have seen my earlier posting, this will add some
conclusion to them. I think I’ve come to a valid realization. What do you
think of these thoughts..?

What is wrong with trying to describe God’s Reality (ie: Truth)?
Because, when we expain Reality as God designed and purposed it to be, we
are confronted with a serious problem. Our society does not have the infra-
structure to practice it! We aren’t set up to live according to That truth.

Option #1: (very popular) Protest that it cannot be done. “It’s not
practical, is unreasonable, even foolish!”

Option #2: Accept and meditate, that is Think and Plan.
Revise, more, Overhaul, Redesign that part of the present system within our
control.
Realize that the above situation is what is meant by a “sin full world.”
Sin has thoroughly impacted our world, making it less than a friend to
righteous living.
As humans, we think and function by an entirely distorted world view.
According to the Bible, our concept of Reality is formed in darkness, by the
speculation and wisdom of Man (called philosophers, scientists, educators,
psychologists). 😦

However, God has spoken. Yes! Light has been given.
We have a document, inspired by God, that gives His “description” of Reality,
ie: as He designed it to be. 🙂
Have we learned to use that document effectively,.. as a sword?
Can we discern the pseudo-good, the mis-aligned intent, the hypocrisy of our
society – because we have “seen” what God intended His ‘images’ to be.
Can we learn how to make ‘corrections’ to the structures in our society?
Can we propose new structures that will lead to righteous living?

The above is suggested by 2 Timothy 3:16-17; “All Scripture is inspired by
God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in
righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good
work.”

Does that seem more than ‘ravings?’ 🙂
Still, it’s been enough input from me for a while.

Yours,
Joe

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From: jaschuck@juno.com (James Chuck)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:02:12 -0800
Subject: CAC_Mail: Research Report on S. F. Bay Area Chinese Churches available.

Persons working with Chinese in North America may be interested
in a research report published September 1996 on the growth of Chinese
congregations in five counties in the San Francisco Bay Area. The 100
page report documents the growth from 15 congregations in 1950 to over
160 by the end of 1996. A brief profile is included for each
congregation, including date of organization, denominational affiliation,
language(s) used in worship service(s), programs offered, and other
pertinent information.
The report is entitled: An Exploratory Study of the Growth of
Chinese Protestant Congregations from 1950 to Mid-1996 in Five Bay Area
Counties: San Francisco, San Mateo, Contra Costa, Alameda, and Santa
Clara. The 160 Chinese congregations in the San Francisco Bay Area
represent about 20% of the Chinese churches in the United States.
The Report is a publication of the Bay Area Chinese Churches
Research Project, which is interested in making empirical studies
available to assist pastors and church leaders in their work.
If you are interest in having a copy, please send your request
using your church letterhead and I would be happy to send you a copy
through the mails.

Address requests to:
Dr. James Chuck
American Baptist Seminary of the West
2606 Dwight Way
Berkeley, California 94704

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From: “DJ Chuang”
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:04:21 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: soon expiring Divine offer

– ——- Forwarded Message Follows ——-
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 05:18:23 -0500 (EST)
To: cac@emwave.net

My dear CACers in Christ Jesus,

I am truly getting sorry for your sake. Most of you live in prosperous
countries like USA or Canada, being well-informed on what is taking
place in the rest of the world. However, your main discussion themes
are ethnical, cultural and doctrinal!?

A man (that is me) came up with his proposal how make use of the Patent
Cooperation Treaty (PCT) to help your own people in China. Believe or
not – I received only the following four replies: 1) a complain: There
must be something wrong with your modem; 2) a question: Can you solve
the problem of El Nino? 3) a wondering: What has your FKFvision to do
with Christian faith? 4) an excuse: I cannot speak Chinese.

Where are you true Chinese Christians of the west? Why do you not even
discuss what the Lord wants to offer through you to your fellowmen in
China and in many other countries?

Within a few days I must decide for which countries I still can offer
the patenting of my God given high-technology invention (FKF). If I
must find all the money (fees and Chinese translation) from my own
small family pocket then I must abandon at least the following
countries: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia, Cuba, Guinea,
Ivory Coast, Kazakstan, Kenia, Korea, People’s Republic of Korea,
Kyrgyzstan, Lesotho, Liberia, Macedonia, Madagascar, Mexico, Moldova,
Mongolia, Niger, Russia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Swaziland, Tajikistan,
Tobago, Trinidad, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and
Vietnam.

Please note that I am not asking for your money as I am asking for true
Christian Chinese people yourselves. Please establish a Chinese
Christian consortium to which I can transfer all my inventor’s rights
for China before the expiry of 15 May 1998!

Sincerely yours in Him,
Antti Lange
The inventor of FKF
http://fkf.net

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From: jtc10@juno.com (J Chang)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:03:50 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: “Religious Freedom Amendment”

Dear CACers:

FYI.

In Him,
J. Chang
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On Wednesday, March 4th, the House Judiciary Committee approved the
Religious Freedom
Amendment (H.J. Res 78) by a vote of 16 to 11. The proposed
Constitutional amendment
is sponsored by Rep. Ernest Istook, R-Oklahoma, and 151 other House
members and is
designed to protect individuals' right of religious expression in public
and on public
property – including voluntary school prayer. This proposed amendment is
the result of
a 3 year effort to draft a piece of legislation that addresses the issue
of religious
suppression in our country.

The Religious Freedom Amendment has been endorsed by over 30
organizations of diverse
backgrounds and beliefs. Some of the organizations include: National
Association of
Evangelicals (Over 40 denominations), Christian Coalition, Catholic
Alliance, Focus on
the Family, American Family Association, Citizens for Excellence in
Education,
Concerned Women for America, Family Research Council, General Council of
the Assemblies
of God, International Pentecostal Church of Christ, Jewish Union,
National Baptist
Convention, Southern Baptist Convention, Wall Builders, American
Conference of Jews and
Blacks, and Youth for Christ.

The ACLU opposes this legislation stating "a constitutional amendment is
unnecessary.
Contrary to claims by its supporters, public schools are not hostile to
students'
religious expression." However, decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court
suggest
otherwise. For example, in 1980 the Supreme Court declared that the Ten
Commandments
could not be displayed on school walls. In 1985 it ruled that a "moment
of silence" in
public schools was unconstitutional because it could be used by students
for silent
prayer. Currently, the ACLU is suing Nitro High School in West Virginia
for offering a
prayer over the loudspeaker before football games, a tradition it has had
for 17 years.

The display of creches are banned in schools, as well as the singing of
religious songs
like "Silent Night." In Scarsdale, New York, the school board took the
word "Christmas"
off the spelling list in its schools. Even the color and shape of
Christmas cookies
became an issue! These types of purification practices were also applied
to Easter.
Eventually the term "Easter" was stricken from all school publications.

In a statement made by the Catholic League on the issue of religious
freedom they noted
that "[c]hildren have been harassed by school officials for reading a
bible on a school
bus and teachers have been told to remove their bibles from the view of
students in the
classroom. Books like 'The Bible in Pictures' and 'The Story of Jesus'
have been banned
from school libraries, but we hear no outrage from the same civil
libertarians who
would protest the removal of child pornography from library shelves. Even
more
astounding have been the attempts by the ACLU to ban books from school
libraries that
promote abstinence. It does so on the grounds that abstinence is a
religious
perspective and is therefore unsuitable for dissemination in public
schools."

Elliot Mincberg, legal director of The People for the American Way,
questions the claim
of judicial hostility toward religion. "I think the assertion that the
judiciary has
been hostile toward religion is absolutely false," Mincberg said.

But religious expression HAS been restricted as the result of court
decisions (many of
the litigation battles initiated by the ACLU). An Alabama court has
forbidden the
display of the Ten Commandments in courtrooms. An Oklahoma court ruled
that the city
of Edmond must remove a cross from among the several historical emblems
on its city
seal (this is the same Supreme Court which ruled in 1995 that a Nazi
swastika is
protected on public property). And, even more of an affront is the
current lawsuit by
the ACLU against the State of Ohio for having the following words in its
state motto:
"With God, all things are possible." And as we reported in an earlier
article, U.S.
District Judge Ira DeMent has banned all religious activity in Alabama
public schools
and has further authorized the use of monitors whose job it will be to
ensure
compliance with the court order. Ruling for Chandler in Chandler v.
James, Judge
DeMent prohibited vocal prayer (which would include a child's spoken
prayer over his
own lunch), devotionals or scripture readings, distribution of religious
texts, and
discussions of a devotional or inspirational nature. The court order went
so far as to
emphasize that neither could there be a time of prayer even during
national
emergencies.

Contrary to ACLU and People For The American Way statements, religious
speech and
prayer IS restricted, when other speech is not, and there is an apparent
hostility by
the judicial system toward religion. The Catholic League summed up the
view of the
supporters of the Religious Freedom Amendment by stating "[w]e do not
seek to amend
the First Amendment, rather we seek to restore the status quo ante, that
is the
condition that was outlined by the Framers of the Constitution and was
found acceptable
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From: The Yees
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:10:49 +0000
Subject: CAC_Mail: Golden Child

It’s not on TV, the WEB, or at your bookstore (yet), but if
any of you is in San Francisco this week or New York later
this year, I can highly recommend the David Henry Hwang play,
_Golden Child_ (at the A.C.T. Theater).

It’s set in 1918-19 Fujian and explores the effects of
modernization = westernization = individuation =
Christianization on traditional Chinese society, especially
in regards to polygamy, ancestor worship, and footbinding.
Well written, very well acted, and even (my wife and I
thought) quite fair to Christianity (depicted in the form
of a British missionary; three baptisms; Rom. 8:28, 1 Cor. 10:14,
et. al. recited unironically at a crisis moment; and a lot
of agonizing dialog about ancestors vs. Jesus).

Rather germane to the Christ & Culture discussion of course,
since both Chinese and Western culture have evil aspects
(= Christ against culture, e.g., Chinese footbinding, the
British opium trade) and righteous ones (= Christ of culture,
e.g., Chinese respect for parents, western truth-speaking).
BTW it goes without saying, I would think, that the gospel
never comes except in a cultural package of some kind, and
that the contents can’t be abstracted away from the package.
Even to talk about this takes a culturally-specific language.

DHH says he wrote it in part because “I needed to reconcile
myself with my family history. Because I come from this
born-again Christian fundamentalist backgorund, which I’d
rejected in college, I felt alienated from my family history.
[His great-grandfather had converted in China.] . . . Not
that I have become a Christian again, but at least I feel I
can understand the past, accept it, and move on.”

Reactions from others who’ve seen it?

Russell Yee
Oakland

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From: TSTseng
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:39:39 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Golden Child

Russ:

Thanks for the reference! I’ve always been intrigued by Hwang – especially
since his “Family Rites” which raised tough questions about being Chinese and
Christian.

Tim Tseng

In a message dated 3/9/98 11:14:05 PM, you wrote:

<>

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From: SKYLeung
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:54:30 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: soon expiring Divine offer

Brother Antti,

Perhaps some clarification is needed. Would the assistance you are hoping to
find require certain backgrounds, beyond being Chinese and Christian. I
suspect many of the subscribers to CAC are not positioned to help you
directly. But, with a few more specifics, we might be able to pass the
information on the FKF and the PCT to those who could and would help. I doubt
we are all totally disinterested.

I suppose that literacy in Chinese is a must. Would backgrounds in math,
international law, intellectual property law, patent writing be necessary? I
think this would help CAC subscribers “ask the Lord for workers” and perhaps
recruit those that could help you.

What else is required? Is association with a “reputable” academic/scientific
institution important? Would travelling be necessary? Would there be any
“security” issues involved – conflicts for those who work for the US
government with particular clearances?

Perhaps you can also give us a little more on how you envision a patent in
China being able to help in the long run. We have your summary vision
information from your e-mail and your web-site – http://fkf.net . Is there
more you can give us to pass along? Please bear with us. Vision transfer is
often a difficult and slow process; and some of us may be slow on the uptake!

In the Redeemer,
Stephen

Brother Richard, is this something in which Julian Woo would be interested?
Brother Peirung, is this something Dr. Siu could check into (at the above web
site)?

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From: Rev Cow
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:55:09 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: MSNBC: Kwan Gaffe

<>

Ironically this response was written by the OCA president. There are
plenty of “17 year-old American teenagers” with “her skin color”. Being
an American teenager does not mean you are white, it means you’re
American. Unfortunate wording. He should have been a bit more careful
because he committed the same blunder, to a much lesser degree, as the
stupid headline.

How do y’all keep up with this digest and have time for other things? 🙂

Ted

Rev. Ted Kau
Harvest San Gabriel Valley

Tact is the art of building a fire under people without making their
blood boil.
– –Anonymous

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From: TSTseng
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:44:52 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Golden Child

Russ:

Thanks for correcting me in private – the play I was alluding to was called
“Family Devotions” not “family rites.” Apologies for the confusion.
Blessings to all!

Tim

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From: Antti Lange
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:09:52 +0200
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: soon expiring Divine offer

Dear Stephen,
>Would the assistance you are hoping to find require certain
>backgrounds, beyond being Chinese and Christian.
Not at all.

>I suppose that literacy in Chinese is a must.
Only for the translation work.

>Would backgrounds in math, international law,
>intellectual property law, patent writing be
>necessary?
Helpful certainly.

>I think this would help CAC subscribers
>”ask the Lord for workers”…
First of all that.

>Is association with a “reputable” academic/scientific
>institution important?
Would be very good.

>Would travelling be necessary?
In the future only.

>Would there be any “security” issues involved
>- conflicts for those who work for the US
>government with particular clearances?
In the future only.

>Perhaps you can also give us a little more
>on how you envision a patent in
>China being able to help in the long run.
The Chinese patent rights alone would not help
Christians very much. Fortunately, we already
have the rights for USA, Europe, Japan, Australia…
These patents together with the Chinese patent
will make a difference. However, if we loose
China now then the chance is gone forever.

>We have your summary vision http://fkf.net.
The only way to do everything in this hurry
is the Internet. Praise the Lord for it!

>Is there more you can give us to pass along?
The Christian responsibility for China as regards
this unique opportunity. There are so many other
nations and the door is open only for two months.

Yours in Christ Jesus,
Antti

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From: Antti Lange
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:34:29 +0200
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: soon expiring Divine offer

Dear Stephen Leung and CACers,

>Would the assistance you are hoping to find require certain
>backgrounds, beyond being Chinese and Christian.
Not at all.

>I suppose that literacy in Chinese is a must.
Only for the translation work.

>Would backgrounds in math, international law,
>intellectual property law, patent writing be
>necessary?
Helpful certainly.

>I think this would help CAC subscribers
>”ask the Lord for workers”…
First of all that.

>Is association with a “reputable” academic/scientific
>institution important?
Would be very good.

>Would travelling be necessary?
In the future only.

>Would there be any “security” issues involved
>- conflicts for those who work for the US
>government with particular clearances?
In the future only.

>Perhaps you can also give us a little more
>on how you envision a patent in
>China being able to help in the long run.
The Chinese patent rights alone would not help
Christians very much. Fortunately, we already
have the rights for USA, Europe, Japan, Australia…
These patents together with the Chinese patent
will make a difference. However, if we loose
China now then the chance is gone forever.

>We have your summary vision http://fkf.net.
The only way to do everything in this hurry
is the Internet. Praise the Lord for it!

>Is there more you can give us to pass along?
The Christian responsibility for China as regards
this unique opportunity. There are so many other
nations and the door is open only for two months.

Yours in Christ Jesus,
Antti
Antti Lange
http://www.fkf.net

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From: JWongCDI
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:55 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: CAC Mail: Transform Culture

Dear Grace;

Nice to hear from you. Thank you for your gracious post. I’m afraid my
response is, again, lengthy.

You wrote:
“Thus while I reject the missiological proposition that there are no
metanarratives, only individual stories about Christianity (popular among
certain ethnologists), I do value the particular perspectives of
Christianity that we are increasingly receiving from around the world.
The global composite asks critical and challenging questions of all of us
whatever our vantage points. Theologies, for example, of the two-third’s
world are revealing some of our Western biases that up until recently we
presumed were part and parcel of THE Gospel — essential, immutable and
transcultural.”
This is correct, and as such raises the question, “How do we process these
critical questions, mutually.” For the Western perspective would also reveal
the biases of the Third World views, now that they have had the time to
develop their brand of Christianity. Where do we sink our theological roots?
Taking an eccletic approach to the various cultural practices is valid only if
we are clear on how to identify the Kingdom’s values and methodology.
Otherwise our eccleticism produces only subjective values. Or do you have
another idea on approaching this goal of being truly Christian?
You wrote: “I would agree with you that the gospel embodies transcultural
values and priorities. Yet…” Don’t get to the “yet” too quickly. Let’s
examine the implications of the “I would agree..,” How do we identify them?

You also wrote:
“But wouldn’t you agree that as soon as we go the next step of providing
specific instances of where we find “heaven on earth,” powerful as they may
be, we need to be careful about generalizing those expressions to all of
humanity? And yet as our other brother so eloquently demonstrated using the
Asian-American culture as an example, we must be willing to examine in detail
the particular strengths and weaknesses inherent in our culture.”
I do not agree. It seems that you are giving too much away. I believe there
IS an objective value system and way of life that can be discerned, defined
and urged upon all of humanity. My point is that to try and find it in my
Western(“Christian”) culture or in the Asian, or Hispanic cultures is a
mistake. The assumption of eccleticism that we can chose the best or the
common from each culture does not result in Truth. I believe that can be
demonstrated, and I believe it’s God’s point in saying that His thoughts and
ways are way far higher than our thoughts and ways.

In another post, I suggest that we need a process by which we can glean the
information from the Bible to transform our culture. I included a diagram
which helps me to carry out such a process. The assumption is, if we are able
to get an accurate description of God’s creation (Reality), including His
design and purpose, we are more able to determine how to act in accordance to
His will. (I think that His will is synonymous with His design and purpose)
We will also be able to understand the reason behind the specific commands
given in Scripture. That understanding, I believe, can free us from a rigid
obedience, which can miss the “spirit” of the law.

The darkness in this world is that Mankind has decided they are capable of
describing God’s creation. Whether they are thinkers: philosophers, religious
leaders, educators, or practicioners: media-persons, businessmen, scientist or
politicians, (listen carefully) they are all trying to describe the Reality
– -but from their bias. They have given their idea of the design and purpose of
God’s creation, in order to propose a mindset or a course of action.

Thanks for wrestling over this input.

Yours and His,
Joe
@ Chicago Chinese Baptist Church

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From: JWongCDI
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:02:47 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: CAC Mail: Transform Culture

Dear Grace;

Nice to hear from you. Thank you for your gracious post. I’m afraid my
response is, again, lengthy.

You wrote:
“Thus while I reject the missiological proposition that there are no
metanarratives, only individual stories about Christianity (popular among
certain ethnologists), I do value the particular perspectives of
Christianity that we are increasingly receiving from around the world.
The global composite asks critical and challenging questions of all of us
whatever our vantage points. Theologies, for example, of the two-third’s
world are revealing some of our Western biases that up until recently we
presumed were part and parcel of THE Gospel — essential, immutable and
transcultural.”
This is correct, and as such raises the question, “How do we process these
critical questions, mutually.” For the Western perspective would also reveal
the biases of the Third World views, now that they have had the time to
develop their brand of Christianity. Where do we sink our theological roots?
Taking an eccletic approach to the various cultural practices is valid only if
we are clear on how to identify the Kingdom’s values and methodology.
Otherwise our eccleticism produces only subjective values. Or do you have
another idea on approaching this goal of being truly Christian?
You wrote: “I would agree with you that the gospel embodies transcultural
values and priorities. Yet…” Don’t get to the “yet” too quickly. Let’s
examine the implications of the “I would agree..,” How do we identify them?

You also wrote:
“But wouldn’t you agree that as soon as we go the next step of providing
specific instances of where we find “heaven on earth,” powerful as they may
be, we need to be careful about generalizing those expressions to all of
humanity? And yet as our other brother so eloquently demonstrated using the
Asian-American culture as an example, we must be willing to examine in detail
the particular strengths and weaknesses inherent in our culture.”
I do not agree. It seems that you are giving too much away. I believe there
IS an objective value system and way of life that can be discerned, defined
and urged upon all of humanity. My point is that to try and find it in my
Western(“Christian”) culture or in the Asian, or Hispanic cultures is a
mistake. The assumption of eccleticism that we can chose the best or the
common from each culture does not result in Truth. I believe that can be
demonstrated, and I believe it’s God’s point in saying that His thoughts and
ways are way far higher than our thoughts and ways.

In another post, I suggest that we need a process by which we can glean the
information from the Bible to transform our culture. I included a diagram
which helps me to carry out such a process. The assumption is, if we are able
to get an accurate description of God’s creation (Reality), including His
design and purpose, we are more able to determine how to act in accordance to
His will. (I think that His will is synonymous with His design and purpose)
We will also be able to understand the reason behind the specific commands
given in Scripture. That understanding, I believe, can free us from a rigid
obedience, which can miss the “spirit” of the law.

The darkness in this world is that Mankind has decided they are capable of
describing God’s creation. Whether they are thinkers: philosophers, religious
leaders, educators, or practicioners: media-persons, businessmen, scientist or
politicians, (listen carefully) they are all trying to describe the Reality
– -but from their bias. They have given their idea of the design and purpose of
God’s creation, in order to propose a mindset or a course of action.

Thanks for wrestling over this input.

Yours and His,
Joe
@ Chicago Chinese Baptist Church

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From: “Rev. L. Dowell”
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:21:54 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: Food For Gospel Illustration [commentary re: Transform Culture]

This post came to me labelled as “An Interesting Story”, and is hereby
shared with those of you who have not seen it. One person responded to
me that they saw this vivid illustration as a message about “chocolate.”
[??] ====–>/Rev. L. Dowell.

Illustration rec’d thru a post from BHaney1210@aol.com.

Once there were two Christians who met in a crowded restaurant. They
had come from different churches. There was a low level of trust
between them, and they were suspicious of each other’s motives. Their
conversation was friendly as long as they kept it superficial, but soon
the real issue erupted.

The younger of the two began to assert that the best brand of chocolate
ever made was Hershey’s. The other man thoroughly disagreed. He was
convinced that Nestle’s was far superior to Hershey’s. Their argument
became heated, and many unkind words were exchanged. The Hershey man
insulted the Nestle man, and then it got physical. There was a push and
a shove, and the fight was on. The two men fought furiously as they
knocked over people, tables, and chairs. They seemed oblivious to the
crowd that was watching.

A police officer, who happened to be in the restaurant, came over to
break up the fight. The Hershey man suddenly reached for the police
officer’s gun and managed to obtain it before the officer realized what
was happening. He pointed it at the Nestle man and shouted, “Hershey’s
is best. Admit it or else!” The other man defiantly looked him in the
eye and said with a scowl, “Nestle’s.” Those who were watching looked
at the two bloodied men, shook their heads, and said to one another,
“Those guys are crazy!”

It is a fine and noble thing to be willing to die for our beliefs when
godless people try to force us to change. However, we Christians are
preoccupied with trying to change each other. Like mad dogs, we sink
our teeth into an issue, and nothing else matters except that we hang
on. Even though we may lose everything in the process, all that matters
to us is that we get our fellow Christian to renounce his erroneous
views.

Sounds a little like our fight over tradtional verse contemporary
worship doesn’t it. When the real issue is are we reaching the lost?
Except the problem here is the people who are dying are outside our
church doors and their fate is sealed. Something to think about.

==========================>=======>======>

[with permission to re-post]
Transmitted to cac list by ~~
Rev. L. Dowell [subscriber, cac]
[revldowell-clergywomen@erols.com]
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/7222

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Dear CACers:

If you’re a young Chinese American pastoral candidate who doesn’t speak
Chinese, you know how frustrating it can get sometimes (even with ABC pastoral
search committee)! Thought the following list of inperfect candidates might
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Dear Friends: I think some of you may get a big kick out of this one.
For others of you, may it bring you at least a chuckle along with my
wish for a great weekend!

Lily

*****

PASTOR SEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT
>
In our search for a suitable pastor, the following scratch sheet was
developed for your perusal. Of the candidates investigated by the
committee, only one was found to have the necessary qualities. The
list contains the names of the candidates and comments on each, should
you be interested in investigating them further for future pastoral
placements. >

>NOAH: He has 120 years of preaching experience, but no converts. >
>MOSES: He stutters; and his former congregation says he loses his
temper over trivial things.
>
>ABRAHAM: He took off to Egypt during hard times. We heard that he got
into trouble with the authorities and then tried to lie his way out.
>
>DAVID: He is an unacceptable moral character. He might have been
considered for minister of music had he not ‘fallen.’
>
>SOLOMON: He has a reputation for wisdom but fails to practice what he
preaches.
>
>ELIJAH: He proved to be inconsistent, and is known to fold under
pressure.
>
>HOSEA: His family life is in a shambles. Divorced, and remarried to a
prostitute.
>
>JEREMIAH: He is too emotional, alarmist; some say a real ‘pain in the
neck.’
>
>AMOS: Comes from a farming background. Better off picking figs. >
>JOHN: He says he is a Baptist but lacks tact and dresses like a
hippie. Would not feel comfortable at a church potluck supper.
>
>PETER: Has a bad temper, and was heard to have even denied Christ
publicly.
>
>PAUL: We found him to lack tact. He is too harsh, his appearance is
contemptible, and he preaches far too long.
>
>TIMOTHY: He has potential, but is much too young for the position. >

>JESUS: He tends to offend church members with his preaching,
especially Bible scholars. He is also too controversial. He even
offended the search committee with his pointed questions.
>
>JUDAS: He seemed to be very practical, co-operative, good with money,
cares for the poor, and dresses well. We all agreed that he is just
the man we are looking for to fill the vacancy as our Senior Pastor.
>
>Thank you for all you have done in assisting us with our pastoral
search.
>
>Pastoral Search Committee chairman

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From: jtc10@juno.com (J Chang)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:20:18 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: St. Patrick’s Day

Dear CACers:

FYI, as many wear green for the holiday of St. Patrick’s Day.

In Him,
J. Chang
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Information from the following Web site:

St. Patrick
Patron of Ireland
March 17

There are many legends and stories of St. Patrick, but this is his story.

Patrick was born around 385 in Scotland, probably Kilpatrick. His parents
were Calpurnius and Conchessa, who were Romans living in Britain in
charge of the colonies. As a boy of fourteen or so, he was captured
during a raiding party and taken to Ireland as a slave to herd and tend
sheep. Ireland at this time was a land of Druids and pagans. He learned
the language and practices of the people who held him.

During his captivity, he turned to God in prayer. He wrote:

“The love of God and his fear grew in me more and more, as did the faith,
and my soul was roused, so that, in a single day, I have said as many as
a hundred prayers and in the night, nearly the same.”

“I prayed in the woods and on the mountain, even before dawn. I felt no
hurt from the snow or ice or rain.”

Patrick’s captivity lasted until he was twenty, when he escaped after
having a dream from God in which he was told to leave Ireland by going to
the coast. There he found some sailors who took him back to Britain,
where he reunited with his family.

He had another dream in which the people of Ireland were calling out to
him “We beg you, holy youth, to come and walk among us once more.”

He began his studies for the priesthood. He was ordained by St. Germanus,
the Bishop of Auxerre, whom he had studied under for years. Later,
Patrick was ordained a bishop, and was sent to take the Gospel to
Ireland. He arrived in Ireland March 25, 433, at Slane. One legend says
that he met a chieftain of one of the tribes, who tried to kill Patrick.
Patrick converted Dichu (the chieftain) after he was unable to move his
arm until he became friendly to Patrick.

Patrick began preaching the Gospel throughout Ireland, converting many.
He and his disciples preached and converted thousands and began building
churches all over the country. Kings, their families, and entire kingdoms
converted to Christianity when hearing Patrick’s message.

Patrick by now had many disciples, among them Beningnus, Auxilius,
Iserninus, and Fiaac, (all later canonized as well). Patrick preached and
converted all of Ireland for 40 years. He worked many miracles and wrote
of his love for God in Confessions. After years of living in poverty,
traveling and enduring much suffering he died March 17, 461. He died at
Saul, where he had built the first church.

Why a shamrock?

Patrick used the shamrock to explain the Trinity, and has been associated
with him and the Irish since that time.

In His Footsteps:

Patrick was a humble, pious, gentle man, whose love and total devotion to
and trust in God should be a shining example to each of us. He feared
nothing, not even death, so complete was his trust in God, and of the
importance of his mission.

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From: James
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:02:46 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: Nanking

Richard Finn’s March 5 letter, “The Real Numbers Are Bad Enough,”
states that the number of dead in the Japanese rape of
Nanking may be
overestimated and cannot be compared to the Jewish
Holocaust, and that
the Japanese now recognize their wartime sins. My two
years of research
into the casualties of the Asian Pacific war in
preparation for a book on
that subject shows that Nanking was only one of a
long, disturbing list of
atrocities committed by a militarist Japan from 1931
to 1945. The total
dead from savagery easily equals the numbers lost in
the Jewish Holocaust.
All told, Japan took almost as many lives in the East
as did Germany in the
West.

The Asian Pacific war was devastating to 700 million
people, one-third of
the world’s population. Starting in Manchuria in 1931,
Japan invaded,
among others, China, Indochina, Burma, Southeast Asia
and many Pacific
islands. More than 300 million people were occupied
and terrorized, close
to 100 million people were harmed, and some 22 million
were killed.
About 19 million of those killed were civilian. Almost
half died from
brutality and forced-labor mistreatment. The rest died
as a consequence of
economic disruption, rice confiscation and other
policies that caused
widespread malnutrition, disease and starvation.
Ninety-nine percent of all
Allied dead in the Asian Pacific theater were Asian.
About one percent
was American, British and Australian.

Today the memory of the Allied Asian toll has been
relegated to the attic of
history, the suffering unrecognized or treated as if
it didn’t count. Academic
and media attention focuses on the casualties of the
atomic bomb; few
acknowledge the tragedy that preceded it. This myopia
extends to the
habit of focusing only on American lives saved —
excluding any estimate of
Asian and other Allied lives spared — when evaluating
the use of atomic
bombs to end the carnage and ensure a peaceful Japan.

On a recent trip to Japan, those I spoke to were fully
aware of their losses,
particularly from the atomic bombs, but had no idea of
the suffering their
nation caused that led to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It
is important to note
that Japan’s aggression cost her 3 million lives in
total, or about 12 percent
of all lives lost in that war and some 3 percent of
all civilian deaths.

WERNER GRUHL

Columbia

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From: Tom Steers
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:53:03 -0800
Subject: CAC_Mail: St. Pat’s Day Fun

Dear CAC,

Here’s one that someone sent me….evidently it originated from a Christian
who works for the DENVER POST:

Abraham is trying to load Windows 95 on his computer. His son, Isaac,
walks in and says, “Dad, what are you doing? You can’t load Windows 95
on to your computer! You need at least a 486 with 14 megs of memory; you
only
have a 386 with no available memory.”

And Abraham said, “Don’t worry, son, God will provide the Ram.”

Cheers, Steers

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From: Grace May
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:04:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Golden Child

Thx, Russell.
Do you have any dates for the NY tour?
Grace

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From: Grace May
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:25:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CAC_Mail: Re: CAC Mail: Transform Culture

Dear Joe,
Good to hear of your ongoing thoughts. I’m afraid that I never received
the e-mail w/ a diagram you mentioned. I’m unable to receive attachments
at this point, which might be the reason.
Grace

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From: ArtZech4 6
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:55:52 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: Ministry Position Opening in San Jose, CA

Dear CACers,
I am sending out an updated version of our church’s opening for a full-time
youth / young adult minister. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone you
think might be interested.

For the Kingdom,
Arthur Lum

Youth / Young Adult Minister Position
1/98

CCIC San Jose is seeking a qualified Christian servant-leader to serve as a
full-time youth / young adult minister among our Chinese American teens,
collegiates, and graduates. We desire an individual with a heart for Chinese
young people and experience in evangelism and discipleship. Must have a
Bachelors or Masters degree from an accredited Christian institution.

Church Description

Chinese Church in Christ San Jose is an evangelical non-denominational tri-
lingual Chinese church. We have three congregations in one facility
ministering to Mandarin, Cantonese, and English speaking individuals. Located
in the heart of the Silicon Valley we recently celebrated our 25th
anniversary. In that period of time we have planted three branch churches
with a total membership of about 1,200. The main church has about 750 members
including children. Our English ministry which consists of about 100 adults
and 75 youth. Our English worship averages 150 a week.
There is a great need to reach many of the unchurched professionals and their
families who are moving into the area because of jobs. There are an estimated
100,000 people of Chinese descent in the Santa Clara Valley, or about 10% of
the total population. This segment is growing rapidly because of the growth
of the high tech industry with several thousand new jobs created each month.
Our church vision is: “To reach out to the unchurched in the Silicon Valley,
to bring them to Jesus and fellowship in His family, to build up the saints to
Christ-like maturity, To equip them for ministry in the church, and to send
and support them as witnesses to the world, for the glory of God.”

Youth Group Description (Christians in Action)

Our youth department has about 60-90 teenagers in Junior and Senior High
School. The majority are children of Chinese or Asian professionals working
in the Silicon Valley. We are near local high schools with the potential to
reach many of the unchurched youth in the community. Our desire is to build
students into leaders who will influence their community for Christ.

Job Description

· Lead and direct the youth ministry (CIA). Oversee ministry of members ages
13-25.
· Oversee current youth programs: e.g. Friday night fellowship, summer youth
camp, etc.
· Recruit, train, and support, adult staff volunteers.
· Disciple and encourage key student leaders to do ministry.
· Supervise youth Sunday School department teachers and teach a youth class.
· Develop and implement outreach efforts in local schools.
· Develop and implement missions strategy for youth & young adults..
· Build relationships with parents and involve them in the youth ministry.
· Counsel and visit youth when needed.
· Develop a young adult ministry.
· Attend church staff meetings and participate in fulfilling church vision.
· Work with English Minister in developing a complete English Ministry.
· Preach in English service at least once a quarter.
· Hold regular office hours for availability.
· Network with area ministries in reaching youth.

Youth / Young Adult Minister Qualifications

· A consistent walk with God and knowledgeable in his Word.
· Heart for youth and desire to build relationships with young people.
· Willingness to understand and minister to Chinese American youth.
· Desire to do evangelism and outreach to youth & young adults.
· Understands Chinese culture and ability to work with parents in the church a
plus.
· Team player, able to work in a tri-cultural and multi-staff situation.
· Flexibility and a good sense of humor.

Educational Requirements

Bachelors of Arts or Master of Arts degree from an accredited Christian
institution. Emphasis in Youth Ministry or Christian Education is desirable.

Ministry Requirements

Working Hours
Hours: Approximately 40-50 hours a week. Weekly activities include:
¨ Friday night program planning and implementation.
¨ Sunday school supervision, preparation and teaching.
¨ Student & Young adult discipleship, evangelism, visitation, and follow-up.
¨ Youth Adult staff support and ministry strategy.
¨ Young Adult ministry development.
¨ Church staff meetings & coordination with English Ministry.

Compensation:
Competitive salary depending on experience. Full medical and dental
insurance. Starting with two weeks annual vacation and recognized holidays.
Sabbatical and retirement benefits based upon length of service.

Accountability:
Youth minister will work directly under the supervision and guidance of the
English minister. Our philosophy of ministry is to encourage, train and equip
servant leaders who will be able to disciple others. Therefore, mentoring,
study, and evalution from church staff will be an integral part of the work.

Applications

Please send a resume with a recent picture of yourself and family if married.
Also include three personal references. Address you correspondence to:

Minister Arthur Lum
c/o Chinese Church in Christ
1490 Saratoga Avenue
San Jose, CA 95129
(408) 364-2242 ext. 107
e-mail: Artzech46@aol.com

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From: The Yees
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:32:59 +0000
Subject: CAC_Mail: Video lesson packages

Hi All –

Has anyone used any of these *video* packages?
– “Finding God” (Larry Crabb)
– “Wrestling With Angels” (Tony Campolo et. al.)
– “Boundaries” (Cloud & Townsend)

We’re shopping for something to use at our chruch retreat
and are considering these. We’ve had good experiences with
the Willow Creek packages in years past (“Contagious Xn”
[evangelism] and “Network” [sp. gifts]). So we’re looking
for something someone else has had a good experience with.

The above are availble from Zondervan’s mailorder Churchsource
catalog. Actually, “Finding God” is now out of print (anyone
have a copy?).

Any other suggestions also welcome.

Hey, how about producing an Asian-Ameircan discipleship video
package one of these days? Anyone game?

Russell Yee
Oakland

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From: KG Louie
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:53:35 +0000
Subject: [none]

Dear CAC’ers

Please pass this on to anyone you think might be interested. Thank you and
blessing abound.

Keep working, Jesus is coming!!

K. Louie / Deacon
Grace Faith Church

BEGIN======================================================>

Position Available – Senior Pastor

Grace Faith Church, a small nondenominational church in New York City
(Chinatown) is seeking an English speaking pastor to lead and guide the
English and Cantonese speaking congregation. We are a self-governing, ABC
ministry, run and financially supported mostly by its ABC members and
congregation.

Some of the selection criteria include:

1) Totally committed to the authority and inerrancy of Scripture
2) Seminary graduate
3) Mature and growing Christian
4) Christian Ministry Experience
5) Committed to Evangelism
6) Experience working with and/or knowledge of the Chinese-American population.

Salary: negotiable, commensurate with experience.

Applicant should send resume to :

William Eng, Chair-Pastoral Search Committee
c/o Grace Faith Church
65 Chrystie Street
New York, NY 10002

<======================================================END

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From: Ahlau
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:03:16 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Golden Child

hi russell,

well sort of slow in coming but wanted to comment on the play. i enjoyed it
thoroughly and was struck by a few things in combination with a visit to my
parents.

– – what is the chinese understanding of God or any kind of higher power? is it
the ancestors that need to continue to be appeased and thus continue the
relationships that existed while being alive? seems like your class and status
continue into the next life unless someone comes into money. pretty stuck.
also adds to chinese fatalism, helplessness, hopelessness, things being the
way they are and having to accept that.
where does the gospel and a different understanding of God come into that?
also that the gospel of jesus christ is about hope, change and life after
death. death does not have the final word. belief in the gospel flies in the
face of fatalism and hopelessness.

– – the hunger for power and female means of manipulation and indirectness to
get power. it was eye opening to me since i see that happening and was just
annoyed at it. i am still annoyed but it offers me a little more context.

– – the powerful resistance to change and the weight of “5000 yrs of ancestors
and tradition” that they had to uphold and carry. first the burden of it and
trappedness as well as the fear and sense of coming against something so
massive. prompts me to be a bit more gracious to my folks in the midst of
change and aware of what they may be going through.

just a few thoughts.
i am a pastor at the oakland chinatown united methodist church in california.
we are in the midst of the move to three services sundays- cantonese, english
traditional, and english contemporary. truly an exciting time!

blessings, anne

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From: jlin3@unity.ncsu.edu
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:11:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CAC_Mail: Action Alert! House Ldrs Attempt to Restrict APA Right to Vote

oca@ari.net wrote:
From oca@ari.net Fri Mar 20 02:23:46 1998
From: oca@ari.net
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:41:24 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Action Alert! House Ldrs Attempt to Restrict APA Right to Vote
To: oca@ari.net
X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17

As the National Asian Pacific American Voter Registration Campaign gears up for
1998 elections, the following alert may haver serious ramifications on the APA
community. Please read on and redistribute. Thank you…Christine

* * * * * * * * * *
From the:
National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium
1001 Connecticut Ave., Suite 522
Washington, DC 20036
(202) 296-2300 tel (202) 296-2318

* * * * * * * * * *
Action Alert!
House Leader Continue Efforts to Restrict Asian Pacific Americans’ Right to Vote

The House of Representatives is considering H.R. 1428, the
Voter Eligibility Verification Act. This legislation would establish
a federal program where election officials can “confirm” the
citizenship of registered voters and voter registration applicants
by submitting names to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
(INS) and the Social Security Administration (SSA). If a
person cannot be verified by the INS or SSA as a US citizen, the
state would be allowed to restrict that person’s right to vote.
Currently, the legislation would set up pilot programs in five states
with the largest concentration of Asian Pacific Americans:
New York, California, Illinois, Florida and Texas.

On February 12, 1998, H.R. 1428 was brought up for a vote by House
Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) under a special parliamentary procedure
which allowed him to bypass Congressional hearings and floor debate.
However, under this procedure, a two thirds majority is needed to
pass the bill. Fortunately, H.R. 1428 was defeated, with 210 members
voting in favor of the bill, and 200 voting against it.

Despite this defeat, Gingrich and his allies are committed to
passing H.R. 1428. The bill is likely to come to the House floor
for vote again in late March. This time, only a simple majority is needed to
pass H.R. 1428, which proponents of the bill gained last time.

Over the next several weeks, it is imperative that you call and
write to your House Representative and urge them to vote against
the bill when it comes to the floor again this March. Also included
is a sample letter you can use, and a set of talking points you can
refer to when you call or meet with your member.

For more information, please contact Jayne Park at the
National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium, at (202) 296-2300.

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Talking Points on H.R. 1428, the Voter Verification Act
(by the National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium)

– – What does H.R. 1428 do?
H.R. 1428, the Voter Eligibility Verification Act would establish
a federal program where election officials can “confirm” the
citizenship of registered voters and voter registration applicants
by submitting names to the Immigration and Naturalization
Service (INS) and the Social Security Administration (SSA).
If a person cannot be verified by the INS or SSA as a US citizen,
the state would be allowed to restrict that person’s right to
vote. Currently, the legislation would set up pilot programs in
five states with the largest concentration of Asian Pacific
Americans: New York, California, Illinois, Florida and Texas.

– – When will Congress consider the bill?
Although the bill was defeated in February, House leaders are
preparing to bring the bill to the House floor for another vote
in late March.

** You can contact you House Representative by calling the
capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121. Ask the operator to
connect you with your Congressperson’s office.

H.R. 1428 will adversely affect the ability of Asian Pacific
Americans to vote in your community because:
*** There is no comprehensive list of citizens. Both the INS
and SSA oppose this bill because their data is very incomplete.
Most INS files are not computerized, and social security
information is incomplete for all persons born before 1978.
The fact is that many Americans, including Asian Pacific
Americans, may be prevented from voting just because of an
outdated database at the INS and SSA.

*** The bill does not adequately protect against discrimination
against Asian Pacific Americans. It is up to local election
officials to decide who should be checked for citizenship.
Thus, someone who looks or sounds foreign could be unfairly
targeted, which would have a disproportionate impact on Asian
Pacific Americans and Latinos.

*** The five pilot states are heavily targeting Asian
Pacific Americans. In California alone, 10% of the population
is Asian and 40% of all Asian Pacific American population live
in California. Moreover, 55% of ALL Asian Pacific
Americans live in these 5 states.

*** If a person’s citizenship is “unconfirmed” by the INS
and SSA, then it may be up to the person to provide sufficient
documentation of citizenship to local and state election
officials. This presents an unreasonable burden for
millions of Americans, particularly for the elderly and the
disabled. The effect would be to discourage millions of eligible
Americans from voting.

*** The bill was introduced in response to allegations of
voter fraud. However, no evidence exists to suggest that voter
fraud is a significant national – or regional– problem. Current
federal and state laws adequately address the issue of voter fraud,
under which allegations can be investigated and proof of fraud prosecuted.

For more information, please contact Jayne Park at the National
Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium, at (202) 296-2300.

– —————————————————————————-
Sample Letter to your House Representative

Representative ___
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Representative ___:

I am very worried about the possible implications of H.R. 1428,
the Voter Eligibility Verification Act. On February 12, 1998, the
bill failed to pass on the suspension calendar. However, proponents
of this measure plan to have the House re-consider this legislation
through the regular calendar sometime at the end of March.

Although the bill has been slightly amended since the last House
vote, it contains the same problematic provisions as before.
H.R. 1428 allows state and local election officials to confirm
the citizenship of individuals registering to vote by verifying
their status with the Immigration and Naturalization
Service (INS) and the Social Security Administration (SSA). Those
whose status cannot be confirmed by the INS and SSA could be
dropped from the voter rolls at the discretion of local and
state election officials. This would essentially
give local and state officials the power to decide which voters
to verify, leading to potential discrimination against and unfair
targeting of minorities, particularly Asians Pacific Americans
and Hispanics. Moreover, both the INS and SSA are openly opposed
to the measure, stating that their organizations are unable to
provide such information.

Furthermore, 55% of all Asian Pacific Americans live in the
five states that have been selected for pilot programs: California,
New York, Texas, Florida and Illinois. By targeting the states
with the largest Asian Pacific Americans and Hispanic populations,
we believe that the federal government is essentially
hindering the right of Asian Pacific Americans and Hispanics to vote.

What is needed is a national effort to encourage more citizens to
participate in the electoral process, not a policy to discourage it.
Asian Pacific Americans have historically had lower voting
participation rates than the general population due to
discrimination and a lack of information.

I urge you to vote against H.R. 1428 when it comes to the
floor again in March. The proposed verification procedures
contained in H.R. 1428 would have a chilling effect on the
political participation of Asian Pacific Americans for
years to come.

Sincerely,

– —————————————————————————-

Organization of Chinese Americans
1001 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Suite #707
Washington, D.C. 20036

Tel:(202)223-5500
Fax:(202)296-0540
Voice Mail:(202)223-5523

E-Mail: oca@ari.net
World Wide Web: http://www2.ari.net/oca

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From: Gdaht
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:35:57 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: twentieth century fox

like an address not too close to oj simpson’s
like the bentley, swimming pool, the free time
you can do without the big investigation
but the heisman on your mantle would be fine?

you yourself burn out between th’ past and future
your noisy time on busy telephones
your high wires from-to dead computers
where you race to final days in motor homes

or is happiness your yacht in kennebunkport
a tax free flat in houston, would it do,
a farm in illinois, winnebagos just for joy
while on-a shoestring mother hubbard fills your shoes?

do ya dream a thing now better than the present
whatever three or more jobs will allow
life is cool in malibu but you’re a peasant (anyhow)
freezing naked the cruel here and now?

do i hear exist big plans between your two ears
new water falls with fountains crystal blue
your family to be charmed in excess down on the farm
and your penthouse suites with picture perfect views?

are you lookin’ for a cabin in alaska
bison in suburban paradigms
rabbit hutches strutin’ sturdy metal rafters
a castle where bill gates would let you climb?

is the promised land the colors over sunset
would you rather be at hollywood and vine
millionaires are livin’ there in the sulphur of despair
home improvement is destructive by design

keep your blueprints in your vault as you desire
but the corridors of life are intertwined
can that new house be a home if your family’s all alone
while the homeless fellowship with the divine,

while the watergate hotel is made to order
wasteland rents a room there any time
brazen drug lords drive across the u.s. border
like the watergate’s the capital of crime?

talk to god and ask him chiefly for instruction
read the bible first for jesus as he talks
god was not a business man nor did jesus make these plans
while you dwell upon the earth live like a fox

cuz if your home can not be found beneath the heavens
if home is where you end up when you’re through
then home is where the heart is right this second
and god is where the light is on for you

if home is where your treasures are forever
and home is in good acts of charity
your home is in a land but never, never
occupied by one of jesus’ enemies

talk to god and ask him chiefly for some wisdom
read the bible look at jesus how he walks
there was not a business plan nor is god a foolish man
while you dwell upon the earth live like a fox

c. 1998go

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From: jlin3@unity.ncsu.edu
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:56:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CAC_Mail: When I say… “I am a Christian”

read this poem. it reveals the weakness of the human soul even as a
christian. i think this hasn’t been articulated ewnough. when we speak of
chrisitanity and God living within us, there’s almost a certain
obligation to enhance the liberating empowerment that accompanies the
realization that one is a child of God. however, God gave us this Spirit
of Power to emblazen us with oppotunity not promise of conditions of
ready-made power-in-a-can like Popeye’s spinach.

anyways, not to undermine that readiness of soul when we feel our hearts
thrust with the magnitude of Hid greatness, but this poem i think is
brave enough to concede that we battle still within ourselves when
battling with the world.

jennifer

Dan Tan wrote:
> > From owner-rccccg@listserv.oit.unc.edu Thu Mar 26 14:14:28 1998
> > Message-Id:
> > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:00:33 -0500 (EST)
> > Reply-To: tan@cs.unc.edu
> > Sender: owner-rccccg@listserv.oit.unc.edu
> > From: Dan Tan
> > To: rccccg@listserv.unc.ed

> >
> > A friend of a friend sent this to me, as part of a response to a
> > an email discussion among a group of friends about the recent tragedy in
> > Arkansas. One question raised during these emotional responses was, “What
> > more can we do as Christians? There is so much suffering all around the
> > world…”
> >
> > Here is a humbling poetic response that frames the question of “What does
> > it mean to be a Christian..
> > [message has been edited]
> > ———- Forwarded message ———-
> >
> > WHEN I SAY I AM A CHRISTIAN
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I’m not shouting “I am saved”
> > I’m whispering “I get lost!”
> > “That is why I chose this way.”
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I don’t speak of this with pride.
> > I’m confessing that I stumble
> > and need someone to be my guide.
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I’m not trying to be strong.
> > I’m professing that I’m weak
> > and pray for strength to carry on.
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I’m not bragging of success.
> > I’m admitting I have failed
> > and cannot ever pay the debt.
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I’m not claiming to be perfect,
> > my flaws are too visible
> > but God believes I’m worth it.
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I still feel the sting of pain
> > I have my share of heartaches
> > which is why I seek His name.
> >
> > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > I do not wish to judge.
> > I have no authority.
> > I only know I’m loved.

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From: Ken Fong
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:35:49 -0800
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: When I say… “I am a Christian”

thanks for the poem, Jennifer. I’m going to keep it.

ken fong
evergreen baptist church of LA

jlin3@unity.ncsu.edu wrote:

> read this poem. it reveals the weakness of the human soul even as a
> christian. i think this hasn’t been articulated ewnough. when we speak of
> chrisitanity and God living within us, there’s almost a certain
> obligation to enhance the liberating empowerment that accompanies the
> realization that one is a child of God. however, God gave us this Spirit
> of Power to emblazen us with oppotunity not promise of conditions of
> ready-made power-in-a-can like Popeye’s spinach.
>
> anyways, not to undermine that readiness of soul when we feel our hearts
> thrust with the magnitude of Hid greatness, but this poem i think is
> brave enough to concede that we battle still within ourselves when
> battling with the world.
>
> jennifer
>
>
> Dan Tan wrote:
> > > From owner-rccccg@listserv.oit.unc.edu Thu Mar 26 14:14:28 1998
> > > Message-Id:
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:00:33 -0500 (EST)
> > > Reply-To: tan@cs.unc.edu
> > > Sender: owner-rccccg@listserv.oit.unc.edu
> > > From: Dan Tan
> > > To: rccccg@listserv.unc.ed
>
> > >
> > > A friend of a friend sent this to me, as part of a response to a
> > > an email discussion among a group of friends about the recent tragedy in
> > > Arkansas. One question raised during these emotional responses was, “What
> > > more can we do as Christians? There is so much suffering all around the
> > > world…”
> > >
> > > Here is a humbling poetic response that frames the question of “What does
> > > it mean to be a Christian..
> > > [message has been edited]
> > > ———- Forwarded message ———-
> > >
> > > WHEN I SAY I AM A CHRISTIAN
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I’m not shouting “I am saved”
> > > I’m whispering “I get lost!”
> > > “That is why I chose this way.”
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I don’t speak of this with pride.
> > > I’m confessing that I stumble
> > > and need someone to be my guide.
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I’m not trying to be strong.
> > > I’m professing that I’m weak
> > > and pray for strength to carry on.
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I’m not bragging of success.
> > > I’m admitting I have failed
> > > and cannot ever pay the debt.
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I’m not claiming to be perfect,
> > > my flaws are too visible
> > > but God believes I’m worth it.
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I still feel the sting of pain
> > > I have my share of heartaches
> > > which is why I seek His name.
> > >
> > > When I say…”I am a Christian”
> > > I do not wish to judge.
> > > I have no authority.
> > > I only know I’m loved.

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From: Fenggang Yang
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:17:47 -0600
Subject: CAC_Mail: joke

Dear brothers and sisters,

I think you may enjoy this joke.
– —
A Jewish father was concerned about his son who was about a year away from
his Bar Mitzvah but was sorely lacking in his knowledge of the Jewish faith.
To remedy this he sent him to Israel to experience his heritage. A year
later the young man returned home.
“Father, thank you for sending me to the land of our Fathers. It was
wonderful and enlightening, however, I must confess that while in Israel I
converted to Christianity.”
“Oi vey,” replied the father, “what have I done.” So in the tradition of
the patriarchs he went to his best friend and sought his advise and solace.
“It is amazing that you should come to me,” stated his friend, “I too sent
my son to Israel and he returned a Christian.” So in the tradition of the
patriarchs they went to the Rabbi.
“It is amazing that you should come to me,” stated the Rabbi, “I too sent
my son to Israel and he returned a Christian. What is happening to our
sons?
Brothers, we must take this to the Lord.” At this they fell to their knees
and began to wail and pour out their hearts to the Almighty. As they prayed
the clouds above them opened and a mighty voice stated,
“Amazing that you should come to Me, I too sent My Son to Israel…..”

– —
Fenggang Yang, Ph.D. email: fyang@uh.edu
Department of Sociology http://www.uh.edu/~fyang
University of Houston phone: 713-743-3973
Houston, TX 77204-3474 FAX: 713-743-3943

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From: The Yees
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:04:04 +0000
Subject: CAC_Mail: Multicultural Book Reviews

Russell Yee here dashing off quick reviews of books I found via
DJ’s very cool AsAm resource list (complete with direct links to
Amazon listings!).

_What Color Is Your God? : Multicultural Education in the Church_
by James & Lillian Breckenridge, Baker, 1995, 288 pp., $13.59
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The big strength of this book is 5 chapters that give an overview
of the various major American minority groups (including two chapters
on Asians; but an even better treatment of that can be found in
Lan Cao’s _Everything You Wanted to Know About Asian American History_).
The rest of the book sets out a reasonably good argument for
mostly-white churches to open themselves up to the multicultural moment,
and a good review of the concepts and terminology surrounding the
discussion. The big weakness: doesn’t even mention the homogenous
unit principle, let alone engage it. Basically says: multiculturalism
is the ideal, so do it. (James & Lillian teach at Oral Roberts.)

_One New People: Models for Developing a Multiethnic Church_
by Manuel Ortiz, IVP, 1996, 158pp. <$10
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Briefer than the above, but has exactly what the above does not: real
live examples of multi-cultural churches and a discussion of the HUP.
(However, his response to the HUP is basically, "It has hindered
the church from the hard work of reconciliation, so let's get past
it." Based on a study of Ortiz did with ATS sponsorship. Unfortunately,
the examples are not set out in a consistent way, making them hard to
compare and contrast. Some of the mostly black/white examples are:
– Faith Christian Fellowship, Baltimore
– Church in the City, Denver
– Dorchester Temple Baptist
– Rock of our Salvation, Chicago
Some of the examples including a major Asian presence include:
– First Church of the Nazarene, L.A. (250 English, 250 Spansh,
60 Tagalog, 100 Korean)
– First Baptist, Flushing N.Y. (50% Asian 35% White, 15% Black & Hispanic)
– International Bible Church, L.A. (Pastor Mark Oh 15 different
ethnicities, mostly Asian, Hispanic, white)
[Can anyone tell us more about these latter churches?]
Divides truly multiethnic congregations from multicongregational
set-ups. Pushes multiethnic leadership. Includes a reminder to not
say "multicultural" when your church is really "*bi*cultural" (e. g.,
Asian-white). The live examples are nice, but I could have used quite
a bit more analysis and discussion than he gives.

_Racial Equality in the Church_ by Bruce W. Fong, University Press
of America, 1996, 176 pp. of text and 120. pp of endnotes, $46!!!
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O.K., this must be a rework of Bruce's dissertation. Very dense,
very closely argued, but (at least for this bleary eyed pastor)
not very helpful. Basically argues: the HUP reflects an
inescapable reality, but not one we need to be content with.

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From: Sze-kar Wan
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:49:23 -0500
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Multicultural Book Reviews

Thanks, Russ, for your helpful reviews. Sze-kar

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From: jtc10@juno.com (J Chang)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:48:30 -0500
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: Multicultural Book Reviews

Dear Russell:

On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:04:04 +0000 The Yees
writes:
>Some of the examples including a major Asian presence include:
> – First Baptist, Flushing N.Y. (50% Asian 35% White, 15% Black &
Hispanic)
>[Can anyone tell us more about these latter churches?]

You can find the web site of First Baptist Church of Flushing at:

First Baptist Church (FBC) has three congregations: English-speaking,
Spanish-speaking, & Chinese-speaking. In addition, there are various
fellowship groups during the week such as the Indian Fellowship, the
Filipino Fellowship, Mandarin Fellowship, & Cantonese Fellowship.

In one sense, there is a multi-congregational aspect to FBC due to
the different languages spoken during the three separate worship
services. However, with the English-speaking congregation, there
is also a multi-ethnic dimension reflective of the Flushing community as
evidenced by the varied ethnic & racial backgrounds of those in
attendance.

The English young adults fellowship is very mixed ethnically. The
believers come from various backgrounds: Caucasian, Black,
Hispanic, ABCs, Korean, Filipino, Haitian, Jewish, Brazilian,
Malaysian, Taiwanese, People’ s Republic of China, & Hong Kong.

I appreciate the diversity of cultures, racial, & ethnic backgrounds
that people come from. One of the strengths of FBC is that
it is able to reflect the same diversity found in the local community.
The pastoral leadership is very intentional to make multi-ethnicity
one of the core values of the church ministry. One of the other
“trickle-down effects” has been the intermarrying between the racial
groups. You name the combination, we’ll have it I think.

Married Couples:

Black/White, Black/Chinese, Chinese/Korean, Hispanic/Filipino,
Italian/Chinese, Hispanic/Jewish

Dating Couples: Chinese/White, Filipino/Chinese, Korean/White

Guest speakers & visitors sometimes mention how amazed they
are upon seeing such a “United Nations” of faces in the pews of
the English service. But for most FBC members, it is not something
consciously in the mind. We see brothers & sisters sitting there
named: Mary, Thomas, Linda, & Dan and not thinking that they are
from Brazil, Haiti, Taiwan, or Flushing.

It has taken FBC a lot of time & effort in working through the issues of
multi-ethnic ministry. FBC has not “arrived” in THE solution of racial
problems. There are hard edges which need to be sanded down.
God’s grace is needed to learn about each other’s distinctives.

Intentionality is needed to cultivate an atmosphere that encourages
inclusion. The model of ministry is far from being perfect but
hopefully it is a start towards a reflection of God’s kingdom on earth.

Please pray for us as a church, as we seek to unite peoples of different
tongues in the Body for His glory.

I welcome any thoughts about this or about other experiences with
multi-ethnic churches/ministries.

In Him,
J. Chang

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From: “Rev. L. Dowell”
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:03:04 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: [Fwd: disease control centers say it’s spreading fast…]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Good Morning and God’s continued blessings. I hope this lifts somebody
today. It got me. I am just so glad to see the shadows of springtime
make its beautiful appearance in the world again.

~~Peace. Until then, Rev. L. Dowell
revldowell-clergywomen@erols.com
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/7222

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ya better read this…

By His Grace,
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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/1938

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if you never try! Have faith in the Lord…His ways are not our ways…He
knows what’s best. A miracle is always in the making!
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– ———- Forwarded message ———-
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:14:06 EST
From: Skaggoff
To: anitamr@bgnet.bgsu.edu
Subject: Check this out!

Anita,

Here’s a message one of my pals sent me. Thought you might be interested.

Agape,

Michele

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CNN REPORTS.. A NEW VIRUS HAS BEEN RECENTLY DISCOVERED. ONE PERSON CAN PASS
IT ON TO MILLIONS AS IT IS VERY CONTAGIOUS.

THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL HAS REPORTED THIS WEEK THAT THE VIRUS SPREADS
VERY RAPIDLY FROM ONE PERSON TO THE NEXT. THEY HAVE PUT A VERY INTERESTING
NAME ON THIS VIRUS. IT IS CALLED…….

A SMILE! 🙂

UH OH! TOO LATE!!

I SEE IT ON YOUR FACE ALREADY!

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From: “Peter Szto”
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:59:21 EST5EDT
Subject: CAC_Mail: teaching Chinese history

Announcement:

Calvin College is looking for a qualified candidate to teach Chinese
history for this coming fall semester 1998. If anyone knows of an
interested candidate please contact me at 616-957-6243. Thanks.

Peter Szto

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From: Gdaht
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:22:11 EST
Subject: Re: CAC_Mail: When I say… “I am a Christian”

In a message dated 98-03-26 19:10:42 EST, jennifer writes:

<>

Dear Jennifer,

Your observations are interesting. The poem you sent seems to originate from a
‘blues’ source. It’s good that you’ve touched this important feature of the
role of the ‘blues’ in our culture. Thanks for confronting the issue.

G

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From: Antti Lange
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:26:10 +0300
Subject: CAC_Mail: [Fwd: Re: soon expiring Divine offer]

Message-ID:
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:19:43 +0300
From: Antti Lange
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Organization: Anti Lange Corporation
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Antti Lange wrote:
> Dear Stephen and CACers,
> Stephen wrote:
> >Perhaps you can also give us a little more
> >on how you envision a patent in
> >China being able to help in the long run.
> The Chinese patent rights alone would not help
> Christians very much. Fortunately, we already
> have the rights for USA, Europe, Japan, Australia…
> These patents together with the Chinese patent
> will make a difference. However, if we loose
> China now then the chance is gone forever.
>
> >Is there more you can give us to pass along?
> The Christian responsibility for China as regards
> this unique opportunity. There are so many other
> nations and the door is open only for two months.

The door is open only for five weeks. I must now decide which developing
countries we can include in the FKF-mission project. I have not received
any support from the Chinese overseas community. This means that I must
either abandon China or most of the developing countries. Thus, this
seems to be my final call to CACers: Cannot you see your responsibility
for your own kinsmen in this regard?
Sincerely yours in Christ Jesus,
Antti Lange
the inventor of FKF by God’s grace
http://fkf.net

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From: jtc10@juno.com (J Chang)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:24:56 -0500
Subject: CAC_Mail: Re: soon expiring Divine offer]

Dear Antti:

Having read several of the posts you have written & also having
gone to your web site, I must confess that I am still not very clear
on what it is that you are trying to communicate.

What I can gather so far is that:

1) You have invented some type of technology (FKY).
2) You have the patent rights to this technology which is limited
in duration.
3) You want to apply for patent rights in certain countries but time
is running out.
4) This FYK technology is somehow of benefit to the Christian
community & to the cause of evangelism.
5) There is an urgent appeal to believers because the door to this
opportunity is closing soon.
6) You are asking believers to do something. But I’m not sure
what it is that you are asking.

With all due respect, because of the urgency of the appeal, perhaps
it would be helpful to have a colleague to summarize what you are trying
to say. I would not like to see a potentially significant opportunity to

go to waste simply due to a miscommunication problem.

Respectfully in Christ,
J. Chang
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On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:26:10 +0300 Antti Lange writes:

>Antti Lange wrote:
>The door is open only for five weeks. I must now decide which
>developing
>countries we can include in the FKF-mission project. I have not
>received
>any support from the Chinese overseas community. This means that I
>must
>either abandon China or most of the developing countries. Thus, this
>seems to be my final call to CACers: Cannot you see your
>responsibility
>for your own kinsmen in this regard?
>Sincerely yours in Christ Jesus,
>Antti Lange
>the inventor of FKF by God’s grace
>http://fkf.net

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From: Gdaht
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:10:03 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: fyi–g

http://www.alisa.org/philtimes

This address links to the _Philippine / Asian American Times_

Email: philtimes@alisa.org

It is billed as “The Voice of Asian-Americans in the Rockies”

It came to me via a student.

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From: Epo9
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:15:27 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: Bone Marrow donor needed

Hi Everyone,
I have been asked by a friend to search for possible Asian bone marrow donors
for Sachi Pace.

For more information, please refer to this website

http://www.definingmoment.com
Thank You

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From: Antti Lange
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:33:00 +0300
Subject: CAC_Mail: Re: soon expiring Divine offer

J Chang wrote:
> What I can gather so far is that:
> 1) You have invented some type of technology (FKY).
The Fast Kalman Filter (FKF) is a key to the most reliable automation
needed increasingly in the future. It is Best Available Technology (BAT)
of today.

> 2) You have the patent rights to this technology which is limited
> in duration.
Yes, 10-17 years ahead depending on country.

> 3) You want to apply for patent rights in certain countries but time
> is running out.
The Patent Cooperation Countries (PCT) are 88 in number.

> 4) This FYK technology is somehow of benefit to the Christian
> community & to the cause of evangelism.
Yes, I received it from the Lord in sleep and I am receiving divine
help. It is related to the salvation of distressed and/or persecuted
people. Let me briefly refer to James Finlayson, William Penn etc…

> 5) There is an urgent appeal to believers because the door to this
> opportunity is closing soon.
This seems always to be the case when people’s salvation is at stake.

> 6) You are asking believers to do something. But I’m not sure
> what it is that you are asking.
I am asking any group of Chinese Christians to take over the
responsibility for the patenting procedures in China as the Internet do
not offer this opportunity for any of the many developing countries. I
could probably find some of the required money but I am now simply
running short of time and strength in organizing all these urgencies.

> …it would be helpful to have a colleague to summarize…
My dear friend Mr. Anssi Yli-Jyra of the Helsinki University has already
done it by rewriting and reorganizing the FKF web pages for that end.
Please see http://www.fkf.net/en/

Thanks for your meaningful response!
Sincerely yours in Jesus Christ,
Antti
http://fkf.net
lange@fkf.net

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From: Gdaht
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:05:29 EST
Subject: CAC_Mail: fyi–g

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